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Brain
Imaging
by,
Paul D. Costa
In
April of
2003, I
interviewed
Dr. Paul
Thompson;
at the
UCLA
Laboratory
of Neuro
Imaging..
I
was first
told of
Dr.
Thompson’s
work by
Dr. Wes
Ashford,
the lead
M.D., PhD
for the
End
Alzheimer’s
2012 Task
Force and
was
anxious to
see first
hand the
advances
Dr.
Thompson
was making
in
computer
graphic
assisted
brain scan
and data
extrapolated
imaging.
Years ago, I had the good fortune of working with Silicon Graphics (sgi) in the
motion picture and virtual reality industries and I was aware of their
scientific divisions working in medical imaging – but I wasn’t expecting the
powerful imaging production that I saw. The entire interview will be available
in video CD soon and here, most of the interview is presented without editing.
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Dr.
Paul
Thompson,
Ph.D.
Assistant Professor of Neurology
UCLA School of Medicine |
PDC:
Dr.
Thompson,
could you
give me a
brief
overview
of where
brain
imaging is
today?
PT:
There
are really
a couple
of
different
ways of
scanning
the human
brain. One
of them is
called PET
scanning
and that
gives you
a picture
of the
amount of
energy the
human
brain is
using. So
one of the
reasons
you might
want to
know this
is in
things
like
Alzheimer’s,
neurological
disorders
or
disease,
multiple
sclerosis
– you
want to
know if
the brain
is
physically
functioning
in the way
you expect
it to.
And
if the
amounts of
energy
that it is
using –
just like
with any
other
organ of
the body
– is
about
right..
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what a PET
scan does
is it
tells you
how you
are really
using
energy in
various
parts of
the brain.
And it
will tell
you if
your
memory
systems or
your
language
systems
– all of
these
different
areas of
the brain
are active
as they
should be.
These are
typically
shown as
color
images and
these are
ones where
you might
see a red
area where
the brain
is very
active and
a blue
area where
it is not
as active
as you
would
expect it
to be.
That’s
one type
of
scanning
called PET
scanning. |
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A little
more
recently,
PET
scanning
is maybe
20 years
old, MRI
or
magnetic
resonance
imaging
was
developed
– this
has been
around
about ten
years or
so. This
images the
structure
of the
brain –
I told you
about PET
scanning,
where that
is a map
of the
activity
or energy
levels of
the brain
- often
what you
want to
know is of
the
anatomy of
the brain
– is it
in tact
– think
of it as a
x-ray, so
if you
could get
a very
very
detailed
x-ray –
so an MRI
really
looks at
the
anatomy of
the brain
and sees
how it
looks
functionally.
PDC:
What is
the
driving
motive
here in
the UCLA
Imaging
Labs?
PT:
One of the
things we
are
interested
in doing
in this
laboratory
is to
understand
what parts
of the
brain does
specific
things.
Now there
is a road
map to the
brain and
let me
give you a
little bit
of an
introduction
to that.
So,
essentially
the brain
is
organized
a little
bit like a
jigsaw so
each of
these
different
areas does
different
things.
This area
is called
the
Temporal
Lobe, just
below the
ears –
that is
involved
in
learning
and memory
– if you
try to
remember a
telephone
number or
someone’s
face -
there
is
actually
activity
going on
there. If
this area
damaged
you might
have
difficult
remembering
those
particular
events.
This area
here –
this tiny
territory
there is
actually
involved
in
understanding
language
– if you
are
listening
to someone
speaking
or
watching
television
and
understanding
the words
you are
hearing
this area
is
processing
the words
and all
the
information
you are
hearing.
This area
of the
brain is
the
frontal
lobe –
the CEO or
executive
of the
brain.
This area
is
involved
in
behavioral
planning
– the
cells here
define
what you
are going
to do in
the
future.
They also
are
involved
in
inhibition
and
self-control
and so if
cells here
are
declining
you often
see
inabilities
to control
behavior
or
inhibitions
as well.
The last
area is
the
central
gyrus,
also
called the
primary
sensorimotor
area of
the brain
– this
is
involved
in
sensation
– there
is
actually a
physical
map where
you can
feel
sensations
from your
feet or
your face
and other
parts of
the body
– there
is
actually
activity
that goes
on in each
of these
particular
regions.
Almost
as we have
said there
is a
mosaic of
different
areas and
each of
these
different
modules
does a
separate
thing.
PDC:
How do
patients
and
doctors
use these
imaging
technologies
and has it
made that
significant
of a
difference?
PT:
In other
conditions
such as
stroke
you’ll
see little
areas of
the tissue
that have
been
affected.
Maybe a
blood
vessel has
changes,
or maybe
in the
case of a
brain
tumor
you’ll
want to
see where
that is or
rule out
other
cases of
disease.
So in all
these
cases
you’d
use an MRI
scan,
essentially
it is the
same
principal
- a
patient
sits in an
MRI
scanner
– and
you get a
very
detailed
3-D image
of the
brain. A
radiologist
or doctor
will look
at that
and
they will
try to say
which part
of the
brain is
effected.
And that
might be
used to
explain
some of
the
symptoms a
patient
has – if
they are
losing
their
memory
they will
look in
the areas
of the
brain that
control
memory, if
they are
having
problems
with
language,
they will
look in
those
areas of
the brain.
Really to
see if
there is a
physical
kind of
disease or
with the
PET scan
to see if
there is a
little
less
activity
in those
areas of
the brain.
PDC:
Has this
close-up
“snapshot”
point of
view
changed
our
concepts
about the
brain? And
has it
changed
our
understanding
of how the
brain
functions?
PT: Yes,
essentially
the brain
is made up
of
millions
of
millions
of cells
– just
like any
other
organ of
the body.
What’s
different
about
these
cells is
they
actually
talk to
each other
– you
can think
of it a
little bit
like the
Internet
where you
have the
computers
on the
Internet
and the
wires
between
them.
So
all these
brain
cells make
up brain
tissue but
they have
wires or
connections
that allow
the brain
cells to
communicate.
Now the
way the
brain
cells
communicate
is through
chemical
messages
and
electrical
messages.
So just as
though you
might be
on a
computer
on the
Internet
you’d
send a
message
from your
computer
to another
computers
– your
brain
sends
electrical
impulses
from one
cell to
another.
Now when
the brain
is healthy
all of
these
electrical
messages
are being
transmitted
in the
correct
way – so
all the
cells are
organized
correctly
and they
are
shuttling
messages
from one
cell to
the other.
When the
cells
begin to
breakdown
though –
this might
happen in
aging or
it might
happen in
a brain
disease
–
you’ll
begin to
see signs
that all
the
information
may not be
getting to
the right
place. And
examples
might be
in
Alzheimer’s
- memory
fails
because of
a
breakdown
in memory
cells, in
other
brain
diseases
perhaps a
particular
brain
function
is
affected.
If someone
has a
stroke in
a langue
area of
the brain
their
speech may
be
affected
– but
other
areas such
as vision
and
hearing
will be
fine for
them. So
one of the
ways we
are
beginning
to
understand
how the
brain
works is
to make
physical
maps and
images of
what
different
parts of
the brain
do. So wee
know that
the cells
are
sitting in
different
islands
– some
controlling
vision
some
hearing
some
memory –
we are
beginning
to get a
more
detailed
picture of
how the
cells talk
to each
other in a
healthy
brain and
how they
breakdown
in
disease.
There is a
very
special
portion of
the brain
called the
hippocampus
– this
is where
short term
memories
– maybe
if you are
thinking
of
remembering
a phone
number so
you can
call
someone
– that
actual
memory is
laid down
in the
brain in a
small
structure
called the
hippocampus.
It is
shaped a
little bit
like a
teaspoon
– a tiny
structure
in the
shape of a
cigar –
it is just
inside the
brain
beside the
ears on
the
outside
surface of
the brain.
Now the
way that
this
memory
takes
place –
the things
you want
to
remember
come is
usually as
audio or
visually
stimuli -
things you
might see
or hear
– and
that
information
is
trafficked
– using
the brain
cells, to
this very
special
memory
area of
the brain.
And there
are actual
physical
changes to
composition
of that
memory
area. Now
this may
seem very
strange
but a lot
of the
cells are
changing,
as you
listen to
this for
example,
your brain
cells are
responding
and
understanding
the things
being
said. They
actually
physically
are
reorganizing
the
structure
of the
brain at
the level
of the
brain
cells.
So what I
mean by
that is
the little
connections
that
connect
one brain
cell to
another
– there
are
actually
physical
changes
that go on
in them.
And that
is
actually
storing
information.
If you
want to
recall a
telephone
number or
remember a
face- you
see
someone
and what
to recall
their name
or who
that is -
you are
actually
calling up
a whole
resource
of
memories
– and
actually
these
memories
are stored
in the
particular
location
of the
brain
called the
Hippocampus.
In
diseases
such as
Alzheimer’s
we know
that the
physical
degeneration
of the
brain
makes it
difficult
to recall
things
like
short-term
memories.
And so a
patient
might have
trouble
recalling
a phone
number or
remembering
what they
did that
day – or
remembering
someone’s
name if
the see
them.
That’s
actually
because
the brain
cells used
in forming
those
memories
and
retrieving
them are
undergoing
changes
that are
part of
the
disease.
So as well
as healthy
changes
that are
part of
learning
there are
also
changes
that
happen
because of
the
diseases
– there
is an
interplay
between
positive
changes
that are
necessary
throughout
life –
and also
effects
that make
it more
difficult
to learn.
PDC:
It seems
the
process of
learning
is a
complex
chemical,
electrical
and
physiological
transaction
– do we
really
understand
what is
going on
and how
can
imaging
help us in
disease
conditions?
PT:
It
is
complex.
When
someone
actually
learns
something
–
let’s
say
memorizing
some
information
– there
actually
are a
whole set
of
proteins
and
chemicals
inside
your brain
cells that
undergo
change.
Now this
doesn’t
happen
with one
round of
learning
– it can
continue
as you
practice
something
– and
very
often-practiced
behavior
–
something
like
learning
how to
ride a
bicycle or
practicing
the piano
– there
are
progressive
physical
changes
inside a
brain
cell.
Now let me
tell you a
little bit
about what
those are.
When a
brain cell
is active
– it is
actually
sending
electrical
impulses
to other
cells. So
when you
are
thinking
of a
particular
thing –
the brain
cells are
firing
impulses
to a
particular
set of
brain
cells that
involve
that
specific
thing. So
as they
fire more
and more
–
different
proteins
build up
in those
cells and
there are
physical
changes in
the
chemistry
of
membranes
of the
brain
cells –
and what
that means
is it
affects
the
ability of
these
cells to
fire in
the
future.
So
if you had
a computer
you were
changing
the
composition
of –
making
changes in
the way it
is wired
– it
would
affect the
ability of
the
computer
to do
different
operations.
What you
see as you
practice a
behavior
is
actually
your brain
cells are
firing –
using
electrical
messages
to talk to
each other
–
and then a
second
step
involved
in
learning
– is
these
actual
building
blocks of
cells –
the
proteins
or sugars
or other
elements
of any
part of
the body
are being
made or
restructured
so the
actual
physical
membranes
of the
cells are
changing
composition.
And this
translates
into
differences
of how
these
brain
cells
fire. So,
if a
particular
brain
circuit is
useful and
helps you
remember
something
– the
actual
physical
structure
will
change in
a way to
make it
easier for
that set
of cells
to fire.
And
conversely,
if you
don’t
use brain
cells –
and you
are not
learning
something
there is a
degeneration
or
reduction
in the
amounts of
these
particular
proteins.
Now this
is just
being
understood
we know a
lot about
the
physiology
of
learning
– how
the brain
cells talk
to each
other when
someone
learns a
particular
behavior
– we are
only just
beginning
to
understand
what the
actual
proteins
are
involved
and the
physical
and
chemical
substrates
of
learning
are really
only
beginning
to be
deciphered
– There
is this
sort of
progressive
knowledge
that when
you learn
something
it isn’t
just in
your mind
there is
also a
physical
component
to this as
well.
One
of the
most
exciting
things
about
learning
and memory
and
understanding
how these
things
change as
you age
– is
really
seeing
this in
living
patients.
If you can
understand
the
changes
that occur
in a
patient as
they begin
to lose
their
memory or
maybe help
to save
those
memory
processes
– one
way you
can look
at this is
brain
imaging.
Brain
imaging is
something
people are
familiar
with –
you go to
a hospital
and get a
brain scan
– it can
actually
give you a
physical
picture of
how the
brain is
doing. Now
a brain
image
doesn’t
show you
individual
cells –
but it
shows you
aggregate
of
millions
of
millions
of cells
–
you’ll
see what
is known
as gray
matter –
the
thinking
part of
the brain
– and
even
though it
consists
of
millions
of brain
cells –
looking at
that brain
scan can
give you a
lot of
information
about what
those
brain
cells are
doing. So
if someone
is
learning
one theory
is we see
the
physical
changes in
the
structure
of the
brain –
one thing
that is
very easy
to see on
a brain
scan if
there are
signs of
early
degeneration
of memory
areas –
for
example if
a patient
is having
early
memory
problems
– one of
the things
we see in
their
brain scan
is the
memory
areas will
actually
shrink –
there will
be volume
changes
and these
are
visible at
a global
level –
you could
look at
your own
brain scan
and say
that “I
think –
compared
to a
couple of
years ago
– these
memory
areas are
shrinking
in
size”.
What
that means
in terms
of the
cells is
they are
actually
beginning
to die off
or
changing
in size
and number
–
perhaps by
atrophy or
from a
disease
process.
The
brain scan
is telling
you on the
whole is
there is
evidence
that
cellular
changes
taking
place.
It
is a very
exciting
technology
to monitor
for early
detection
of a
disease
and really
understand
if the
drugs are
affecting
either our
memory or
other
brain
diseases
that might
be taking
place. You
can think
of brain
scanning
as a way
of getting
into the
brain –
similar to
a digital
photograph,
but really
accessing
the
integrity
of the
cells
rather
than the
exterior
of the
body.
PDC:
What drew
you to the
study of
the
Alzheimer’s
disease
process?
PT: One
of my
personal
interests
for many
years is
to try and
understand
human
diseases.
One of the
diseases
that
really has
a chance
to be
solved or
cured is
Alzheimer’s.
Imaging
offers the
opportunity
capture a
detailed
picture of
Alzheimer’s
–
catches it
red
handed.
It’s
really a
technology
that
allows you
to say –
“Are
there
signs of
dementia
that can
put a
patient’s
memory at
risk
later?”
Are there
ways we
can use
imagining
determining
a
patient’s
therapy
sooner or
later? I
personally
have been
excited of
the
promise
that
imaging
has – it
doesn’t
in itself
offer a
cure for
Alzheimer’s
but it
gives you
a detailed
record of
what is
going on
the brain
– this
can be
used in
drug
assessment,
it can be
used to
actually
be used on
a positive
side to
see if a
brain is
doing OK
– it can
be used on
a research
level to
see what
happens
when a
disease
hits. We
think we
know what
happens in
Alzheimer’s
– but
that
actual
sequence
of events
is a bit
of a
mystery.
One of the
things I
am trying
to do is
to
reconstruct
the
physical
changes
that
develop
within a
patient as
they
develop a
disease,
This might
be
Alzheimer’s,
one of
numerous
neurological
disorders,
multiple
scoliosis,
in a sense
the
technology
is the
same but
it helps
you see
how these
diseases
unfold
over time
really
with a
goal to
see what
the
changes
are and if
they can
be
decelerated.
PDC:
Tell me
about the
animation
of the
Alzheimer’s
disease
process.
PT:
These are
MRI of a
patient
involved
in an
Alzheimer
study -
one
of the
things you
can do
with MRI
is section
the brain
and have a
look at it
from
different
angles.
This is a
three
dimensional
MRI scan
– it
takes
about 8
minutes to
perform
– One of
the things
we are
looking
for in
these
images are
there any
early
signs of
Alzheimer’s
– I’ll
tell you
some of
the areas
that are
important
– these
are fluid
filled
areas here
– they
almost act
like
hydraulics
and
actually
cause a
sort of
buffering
to any
mechanical
sort of
condition
that
happens.
One of the
things you
see as you
age is
that these
fluid
filled
spaces
enlarge.
So often
one of the
first
signs of
Dementia
is if
these
fluid
filled
spaces are
a little
bit bigger
than they
should be.
One of the
reasons
this
happens is
as the
brain
cells
degenerate
– you
actually
get an
increase
in the
size of
these
fluid
filled
spaces.
They are
pretty
complex in
geometry
– it is
like a
labyrinthine
complex
system
that
threads
through
the brain.
One of the
things you
are
looking
for is a
sign that
this is
abnormally
enlarged.
Another
area
I’ll
show you
is the
memory
system.
Here is
the
Hippocampus
–All the
memories
of what
you are
thinking
of doing
today –
or what
your plans
are or
maybe your
remembering
your
schedule
for later
today –
all these
are being
stored in
this tiny
area there
called the
Hippocampus.
This is
another
are you
would look
at in
these
images to
see if
there are
any signs
of change.
Now the
Hippocampus
is really
the size
of a
teaspoon,
It has a
little
handle and
then there
is a
little
piece at
the end
here –
that brain
tissue
changes
very
drastically
in aging
and also
in AD –
One of the
things you
see is
shrinkage
– this
patient
actually
looks like
they are
doing
pretty
well.
Their
Hippocampus
is a good
size. The
fluid that
surrounds
the
Hippocampus
–
doesn’t
look like
there is a
lot of it.
This
actually
looks like
a healthy
brain –
no signs
of serious
deterioration.
One of the
things
you’d
begin to
see is
these
areas here
– a
little
tract of
tissue
called the
Hippocampus
and all
the memory
areas that
begin to
decline in
AD and
Aging –
these are
accompanied
by a
reduction
in volume
of the
structure.
This
structure
is called
the
Hippocampus
and again
we begin
to see a
paring
down of
tissue
structure
here – a
little bit
like the
cells were
dying and
at the
same time
you’d
see an
increase
or
enlargement
of the
fluid that
surrounds
the
Hippocampus
as well.
So this is
really a
target for
Alzheimer’s
therapy -
you are
looking at
the
structure
and trying
to save
the cells
in it –
with drug
you are
trying to
make sure
the rate
of loss of
these
cells is
either
stabilized
or
prevented
by the use
of
therapy.

This
is a
horizontal
section
through
the brain
that has
been taken
with MRI
scanning
– you
can see
the
patient’s
eyes here
and the
nose. One
of the
areas of
AD
research
that we
are really
interested
in is the
Hippocampus
– the
reason for
that is it
is the
structure
that
controls
and lets
in memory
– things
that you
learn –
the brain
tissue is
active in
this
little
area of
the brain.
What
this
scanner is
doing is
actually
accessing
the
physical
intactness
of that
tissue. So
even
though it
is very
tiny –
you can
tell this
looks like
a healthy
subject
– there
is a lot
of tissue
in the
area and
that means
the memory
function
is largely
intact.
This
little
fluid
filled
space here
– that
would be
drastically
increased
in an
Alzheimer’s
patient
– one of
the
reasons
that
happens is
that the
brain
tissue
surrounding
the
Hippocampus
begin to
die off
and as
these
cells die
off you
can see a
corresponding
enlargement
of the
fluid
filled
spaces. So
this is
really the
target for
Alzheimer’s
drug
therapy.
Some of
the drugs
used can
really
save the
cells here
and you
can use
images
like this
to see if
the drugs
are
slowing
down rates of
cell lose.
Also to
see if a
patient is
doing well
– if you
were to
look at
this area
over a
period of
time you
could see
if the
brain
deterioration
which
usually
takes
place
is
happening,
at what
rate it is
happening
and where
in the
brain is
the tissue
being
lost.
This
animation
shows the
changes of
what
happens as
a patient
develops
AD over a
year and a
half. The
red areas
that you
see here
are areas
where
cells are
actually
being
lost. As
AD hits
the brain
there is
this
progressive
lava flow,
which is
sort of
eating
into the
brain
cells and
eliminating
them and
resulting
in the
memory
decline
that you
see. One
of the
earliest
areas to
be
effected
in AD is
the memory
system.
One of the
things you
see is
that the
red areas
– the
areas that
go into
deficit
– they
are
initially
only in
memory
areas.
So
this makes
sense –
a patient
will have
a deficit
in memory
and
learning
but not in
vision or
hearing.
As this
disease
progresses
you see
this sort
of
wildfire
of tissue
loose that
spreads
across the
brain.
What this
means is
that over
a year or
two year
period
there is
actually a
progressive
spread of
the
disease
– the
brain
cells are
being lost
– not in
the whole
brain
itself but
in a sort
of slowly
spreading
sequence.
There is
some logic
as to how
this
happens
– the
memory
systems
are
affected
first –
then the
more
emotional
areas of
the brain
are
affected
and
ultimately
the areas
of
self-control
are being
eroded
away. One
of the
things
that the
brain scan
tells us
is there
is a
physical
basis for
these
changes
the
patient
has. If we
can use
these
scans as a
record of
what is
happening
in the
brain –
you can
actually
see if the
physical
spread of
the
disease is
being
halted or
where a
drug is
slowing it
down. So
really
this
animation
shows you
two things
– One is
that AD is
very
selective
and there
is a
sequence
of how
brain
tissue is
affected.
PDC:
That would
be
valuable
information
in
therapy,
are we at
a point
where the
technology
is being
utilized?
PT:
Almost,
memory
areas are
affected,
emotional
areas are
affected
and then
areas of
self-control
are
affected.
The second
thing
these
animations
show that
is much
more
positive
– is
really
they are
telling
you if in
a
particular
patient
the
disease is
being
slowed
down by a
particular
drug –
whether
things
they are
doing are
warding
off the
rate of
changes
happening
here so
even
though
this looks
like
depressing
image –
we are
thinking
in the
near
future
these
changes
could be
decelerated
and these
scans will
give you a
physical
record of
how well
the
patient is
doing.
What
happens
when a
patient
gets
Alzheimer’s
disease
– there
are
particular
changes in
their
brain we
are
learning
about. One
of them is
this
molecular
compound
–
beta-amyloid
– a
starchy
substance
that
builds up
in the
brain –
now
amyloid is
not toxic
by itself
– but as
it builds
up in the
brain more
and more
– a lot
of
properties
of the
brain
cells that
allow them
to
function
normally
– begin
to be
impaired.
The first
is the
brain cell
starts to
be
inflamed
– the
reason we
know that
is
anti-inflammatory
drugs –
thing like
Celebrix
or things
like
Aspirin
–
actually
can give a
lot of
benefits
in the
early
stage of
Alzheimer’s.
The
reason
they are
helping is
the
inflammation
that is
happening
to those
brain
cells is
actually
being
clamed a
little
bit. Now
on the
other hand
the later
stages of
AD when
the
amyloid
has built
up quite a
lot –
it’s
actually
impairing
the cells
to a
degree so
they
can’t
function
at all. So
you begin
to see
brain
cells
dying –
the
amyloid
starts
killing
off the
brain
cells at a
tremendous
rate and
what you
might see
as much as
5% of the
brain
cells a
year-
being
killed in
the brain
of an
Alzheimer’s
patient.
We know
that that
process is
quite
selective
where
amyloid -
the
molecule
that is
building
up in
Alzheimer’s
– where
that
molecule
is
building
up more
brain
cells
there are
cells
being
killed. It
is almost
like a two
stage
process-
if you can
keep some
of those
brain
cells
healthy in
the brain
– some
of the
degenerative
effects
that you
see as
brain
cells die
– might
be warded
off.
PDC:
Isn’t
that the
hope of
pharmaceuticals
and
inoculation
treatment
approach
– to
alter the
chemistry
of the
disease
process
and spoil
it?
PT:
Yes, and
imaging
has shown
without a
doubt
there are
a couple
of
different
ways of
warding
this off.
One of the
ways is
drug
treatment
and
obviously
drug
companies
are trying
hard to
keep the
brain
functions
as intact
as
possible.
Really
by beefing
up the
ability of
brain
cells to
talk to
each
other.
So
one of the
drug
treatments
used in
Alzheimer’s
is called
an
inhibitor.
And what
that is
actually
doing is
– you
have
depletion
as these
brain
cells die
- of the
chemicals
that allow
these
brain
cells to
talk to
each
other.
This drug
treatment
is
affecting
the way
this
compound
is being
depleted.
You
actually
have
vacuums in
your brain
that clear
the
chemicals
that let
the brain
cells
speak with
each
other. One
of the
drugs
blocks
these
vacuums
– it is
an
interesting
mechanism
– when
you take
these
drugs your
actually
inhibiting
the
clearance
of the
brain
chemicals
and this
class of
drugs
really
beefs up
the brain
cells
speaking
to each
other.
A
second way
that you
can
balance
brain
function
that is
not
through
drug
treatments
-
is
really
just
common
sense. So
anything
you can do
to stay
healthy
things
like
nutrition
or
exercise
– these
are going
to
contribute
to the
physical
health of
the brain.
Now
it is
certainly
known that
your blood
vessels
and
cardiovascular
health is
greatly
improved
with
exercise.
This
is
identical
with the
brain –
the more
people
exercise
the more
the gray
matter of
their
brain is
intact.
This is
the same
tissue
that is at
risk in
things
like AD
– and so
even
though
exercise
doesn’t
directly
prevent
Alzheimer’s
we know
that
anything
you can do
to keep
you brain
tissue
healthy
and intact
– makes
it more
robust it
makes it
less easy
for
disease
like AD or
many
others to
really
take
effect. So
the things
you see
– is the
many
things we
can do –
things
like good
diet,
exercising
or really
having a
healthy
lifestyle
that
isn’t
damaging
brain
cells –
all of
these like
any other
physical
system are
helping to
ward off
the
effects of
ageing as
well as
the more
pathological
effects of
Alzheimer’s
as they
build up.
PDC
You are
talking
here about
the
lifestyle
and simple
over the
counter
treatments
that
people can
self-administer
to himself
or herself
right?
PT:
Yes, and I
think we
are at a
threshold
point in
imaging
where a
lot of
things are
possible.
One of the
reasons I
say this
is the
imaging
technology
has
undergone
a
revolution
in the
last few
years. We
are now
actually
able to
physically
image the
things
that cause
Alzheimer’s.
Let me
give you
an
example.
The
amyloid
protein
that
builds up
in the
brain has
never
really
been seen
before –
except at
autopsy.
Now that
is
interesting
in terms
of
understanding
the
disease
– but it
doesn’t
help
living
patients.
There’s
really
been a
revolution
in imaging
though
that
allows you
to see
where AD
is
spreading
in the
living
brain. So
it not
only these
approaches
that
I’ve
talked
about with
MRI –
that are
looking at
the
intactness
of cells
– but
really a
new window
is created
on the
disease
– partly
because
you can
see these
rouge
chemicals
that are
building
up on the
brain. Now
why would
we want to
do that?
Well one
of the
ways if we
know a
drug or
lifestyle
is
effective
is looking
for a
physical
marker for
the
disease.
Now with
scanning
and
imaging if
someone
has a
tumor or a
broken
blood
vessel -
it is very
easy use
scanning
to detect
that and
see how
that
patient is
doing.
With
Alzheimer’s
disease
until
recently
– it
hasn’t
been so
easy.
Alzheimer’s
disease
eliminates
a small
fraction
of your
brain
cells per
year –
but it is
actually
moderately
difficult
to see in
a brain
scan if
someone
has
Alzheimer’s
or not.
One of the
revolutions
in brain
imaging is
we now
have
scanning
in
exquisite
detail –
we can see
changes in
the order
of 1% or
half of a
percent in
the number
of brain
cells per
year –
this lets
you see
the
physical
process of
aging in
unprecedented
detail.
There are
also newer
imaging
technologies
as well
– one
new form
is called
amyloid
imaging
– this
is
relatively
new its
been
developed
over the
past few
years –
and you
can
actually
see the
physical
spread of
the
molecule
causing
Alzheimer’s
- amyloid.
And there
is a lot
of
exciting
ways this
technology
can be
used in
the
future.
PDC:
Could the
imaging
technology
be useful
in
verifying
the
effectiveness
of
immunotherapy
– or the
vaccine
approach?
PT:
In my
opinion,
yes. In
trials
that are
using
vaccines,
the target
of those
trials is
to eat up
the
amyloid
that is
building
up in the
brain. Now
there is
no better
way than
imaging to
see if a
patient’s
amyloid is
being
cleared.
Now
clearly
the acid
test is at
autopsy to
see if the
plaques
are still
present.
But
certainly
for a
patient
that is
alive who
wants to
know if
the brain
function
or the
pathology
is being
molested
or opposed
–
you’d
want to
use the
best of
imaging
you have
available
– really
to see if
the
hallmarks
of the
disease
– the
physical
signs of
the
disease
– rather
they have
been
cleared or
they are
progressing
as the
disease
evolves.
Imaging
is at a
threshold
where we
can see
some of
the
hallmarks
of the
disease
for the
first
time. Some
of the
molecules
we know
that are
implicated
– we
have only
previously
seen at
autopsy.
Now you
can use
imaging to
see these
molecules
in living
patients.
Why that
is useful
is you
really
want a
physical
marker of
the
disease as
patient is
taking
drugs or
really as
people are
doing
things to
slow down
the onset
of the
disease.
These
images
give you a
physical
–
quantitative
measure of
how well
someone is
doing –
have they
averted
the
disease by
doing
particular
things or
in the
case of a
patient
has a drug
treatment
they have
been
having
slowed
down the
disease or
not.
PDC:
Do you see
the end of
Alzheimer’s
disease
and the
role
imaging
will play
in that
end?
PT:
Well,
there’s
a lot of
ways that
I think
will bring
about the
end of
Alzheimer’s
disease
– some
of them
are
measures
that
anyone can
take that
delay the
onset of
AD –
this buys
time. Some
of the
things we
know are
effective
are
exercise,
cardiovascular
fitness
keeps the
brain in
tact –
and even
healthy
diet and
nutrition
are
important
to keep
the brain
healthy. A
much more
direct
approach
that I
think will
be
revolutionary
is the use
of
vaccines
and other
agents
perhaps
that we
don’t
know about
yet –
but based
on vaccine
technology
that
physically
combat the
causes of
the
disease.
As
we said
before, AD
builds up
in the
brain - it
doesn’t
just hit
you
immediately.
It plays
out over a
period of
two to
three
years. Now
even
though
this seems
like bad
news it is
actually a
window of
opportunity
for drug
treatments
like
vaccines
or
vaccines
in concert
with other
drugs. Now
in a sense
AD is a
paradoxical
disease
– there
is a slow
onset –
it sort of
sneaks up
on people
and then
it
doesn’t
hit all at
once.
There
is a slow
progression.
One of the
ways that
the
vaccine is
promising
is that
they
physically
target the
cause of
the
disease
– so if
we know
these
rouge
proteins
contribute
to the
memory
decline
and other
symptoms
the
patient
has –
you can
actually
attack the
protein
and some
of the
treatments
that are
experimental
right now
I think
will be
used in
the future
to clear
the brain
of the
physical
source of
these
symptoms.
Now there
are also
other ways
that lead
to an
onset of
symptoms
– even
if we
can’t
clear the
brain of
the
physical
cause of
the
disease we
can
balance
the
function
of brain
cells –
so there
are major
efforts at
the drug
companies
world wide
essentially
to help
the
brain’s
chemicals
communicate
more
effectively
when the
brain is
under
attack.
Rather
than
combating
the
pathology
itself
it’s
really
sort of
mustering
the forces
of the
brain to
keep the
cognitive
function,
as it
should be.
Now since
we know
how brain
cells talk
to each
other and
the
chemicals
are very
well know
– it is
comparatively
straight
forward to
try and
effect
these
chemicals
and beef
up their
functions.
Let me
give you
an example
– if
someone
has
depression,
we know
that
anti-depressants
can be
quite
effective
in
eliminating
or at
least
partially
opposing
depression.
The reason
that works
is that
often in
depression
the
seratonins
or the
dopeamine
systems of
the brain
– these
are
different
chemical
messengers
-
are
altered.
And so the
drugs work
by
restoring
the
imbalance
of those
chemicals
in the
brain. Now
in AD the
case is no
different
- the
brain
cells are
degenerating
in the
brain –
causing a
chemical
imbalance
in the
brain -
and the
way the
brain
cells
communicate
with each
other –
it isn’t
just that
they are
dieing –
but the
existing
cells are
having
difficulty
communicating
with each
other with
these
chemicals.
There
are
certain
molecules
– the
pathways
where
there is a
lot of
research
going on.
Where the
chemical
is
depleted
in early
Alzheimer’s
– so one
of the
ways
forward in
drug
therapy in
Alzheimer’s
is to see
if there
are ways
to keep
these
chemicals
around
longer in
the brain
– so not
just
people who
are
worried
about
Alzheimer’s
disease
but also
those who
have it
can keep
their
brain
balanced
for as
long as
possible.
One
of the
things we
are
interested
in
understands
which
parts of
the brain
are
affected
in brain
disease.
So let me
give you a
road map
of the
brain and
those
areas
affected
by
diseases.
One of the
things you
see here
is the
overall
structure
of the
brain –
it is
actually
separated
into
regions.
Through a
lot of
research
from many
laboratories
world wide
– we are
now
beginning
to
understand
what these
different
parts do
– this
is an area
just below
the ears
– it’s
just on
the
exterior
surface
– this
area is
involved
in memory
- a
lot of the
thoughts
you are
having
when you
try to
recall a
name or a
telephone
number or
your
interesting
in what
happened
to you
many years
ago –
there is a
processing
going on
here –
it’s
called the
temporal
lobe. This
is
actually a
very
discreet
area of
tissue and
if any
thing
happens to
the brain
in this
tissue
area –
it can
actually
impair
memory
function.
So this is
the area
to first
degenerate
in the
case of
Alzheimer’s.
PDC:
How do you
see the
pharmaceutical
industry
and the
imaging
communities
working
together?
PT:
I
think the
next few
years will
see a
revolution
in our
ability to
see
understand
how drugs
are
working to
get ride
of
Alzheimer’s
– and
really try
and get
new drugs
on the
market as
fast as
possible.
One way
that
imaging
can help
is that
there are
certain
areas of
the brain
– this
is the
memory
area of
the brain
– where
very very
subtle
changes
take place
early in
Alzheimer’s
– with
imaging
you can
access the
intactness
of this
– you
can look
at
Amyloid,
one of
molecules
involved
in
Alzheimer’s
that’s
building
up here
– and I
think that
a second
revolution
in our
understanding
of
Alzheimer’s
will take
place if
we can see
the
earliest
possible
signs of
AD and
deliver
drugs to
the
patient as
soon as
possible
so this
brain
tissue
stays
intact.
One of the
things I
think we
will see
is the
drug
development
and
imaging
will work
hand in
hand, the
drugs will
actually
combat the
disease
and the
imaging
will give
you the
best
possible
index of
which drug
is working
–
whether
one drug
is better
than
another
– and if
the
physical
spread of
the
disease is
actually
halted in
concert
with the
symptoms.
PDC:
What is
this
beanbag
graphic
brain
image
signify?
PT:
This
sort of
M&M
graphic of
the brain
is
actually a
map of how
variable
the
structure
of the
brain is
in a
population
of people.
Just as
there
isn’t a
road map
of any one
city –
everyone’s
brain is a
little
different.
In early
days
surgeons
would plan
surgeries
using an
individual
brain –
this is
actually a
composite
of many
many
brains –
and what
the
different
areas of
color are
telling
you are
– the
pink areas
are areas
where your
brain and
my brain
might be
quite
different
– really
the
structures
might be
enormously
different
in those
areas.
The
blue areas
are brain
regions
that are
very
consistent
in the
anatomy
between
subject to
subject.
Now one of
the points
of having
this is
you would
like the
measure of
variance
of brain
structure
is in
population.
If you
have
measure of
that you
can tell
if a brain
is
abnormal.
So part of
why it’s
hard to
tell if a
brain is
abnormal
is that
there is
so much
that’s
different
between
normal
healthy
subjects.
It is
similar to
faces –
each face
is
different
from any
others –
it is
difficult
to tell if
a nose if
out of
place or
something
like that
–
because we
don’t
have a
statistical
record of
what those
features
should be.
But just
looking at
this again
– the
little
beans
describe
regions of
space
where 95%
of the
population
would have
their
anatomy.
And so the
bigger
beans are
areas that
are very
variable
– the
pink areas
that you
see there
with the
elongated
beans -
there is a
lot of
difference
in where
people’s
brain
function
is located
in those
particular
areas. But
the areas
that you
see in
blue
everyone
is kind of
the same.
A surgeon
needs this
for
understanding
what the
variability
is for
planning a
surgery
– and
also more
practically
for more
accessing
brain
abnormalities.
If
someone’s
fissures
or groves
on the
surface of
the brain
look
abnormal
– this
provides
you with a
quantities
way of
measuring
if that
brain is
out of
whack at
that
particular
area is it
different
than the
population?
So what
you can
use this
for is to
give you a
map of the
abnormality
of each
brain
region by
consulting
a database
of
population
data.

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